[TopicChanged] What OS do you recommend ?

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    i've been looking into dedicated hosting as im getting sick of my hosts downtime and slow support

    just wondering what you guys think of http://www.soyoustart.ie/ because i can't really afford ovh and sys is almost 50% cheaper.

    what would i be losing out on by choosing soyoustart ?

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    the only thing I can say is make sure you know how a unmanaged server works ovh is very known to be fast comprimised even at the installation if its windows server.
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    what do you mean by "ovh is very known to be fast comprimised" like getting attacked/hacked ?
    from what i've seen ovh is really reliable and highly recommend

    would you recommend windows or linux ?
    i will be new to dedi's so i don't plan to purchase until i know exactly what ill be doing or faced with thanks,
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    ovh gets fast hacked there are tons of ssh crack bots which even can get access before you even had the time to login because ovh's ssh default configurated keys are comprimised but they maybe changed that not sure.

    i've had first a dedicated server to but it whas comprimised because I didn't know I had any ssh server active its installed on their default windows distro also ovh says its your full responsibillity they can also shutdown your server if its semi hacked or hacked machine so be aware of that, ovh is listed as one of the top comprimised providers.
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    i have read enough about ovh the last two days now,

    just asking now,
    would you recommend windows/linux/Debian/Ubuntu/CentOS e.t.c ?
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    I use Ubuntu. Free, fast and reliable. You also can set up your website on it quite easily with Apache as well as your MySQL databases.
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    I prefer Debian since i do not like the way what Ubuntu made with Debian and i only want stuff that i think i need. Ubuntu comes with too much stuff there is no real minimal installation and what bugs me the most is that they seem to think "we do it better than debian cause we use application x" e.g. they use upstart debian uses init.d ....

    Whatever.. Its a preference Ubuntu Servers tend to be easier to manage by "one-click install users" since they also offer LTS you can run an ubuntu server for years and know "this package will be there during that time".

    But if you miss that "support ends" point you are screwed which reminded me of a situation my boss said "hey we need package xyz install it" ... i checked it and noticed that the machine did not see any upgrade command for years.

    End of story was we need to reinstall the whole distribution since that package needed the next next generation which you cant do with ubuntu. You can upgrade from 1 to 2 but not from 1 to 5 which you can with debian since there is no such thing like a sub-distribution. There is stable, unstable, testing and you can always switch between most of the time.
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    Centos 5 64bit the easiest way to install java : yum install java 7
    It's really easy o prefer using Centos than any other.
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    Debian > CentOS > Ubuntu > Windows
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    Thanks for the suggestions guys

    it is fun taking this learning curve on new operating systems that aren't windows. Certainly is a change alright.
    so far i think ill be using debian once i get my dedi as i managed to get everything functional even mcmyadmin on it without a single problem.

    just wondering is there anything i should take into account in terms of security on a dedicated server ?
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    Arrxzon security in terms of "how to login via ssh or if you should use telnet?"

    Yes ... you use putty for ssh and never ever think about logging in via telnet ^^

    Also using a password is also insecure when you connect to your server. When you have all setup think about changing to key based authing since this is much more secure than using a password.

    Google keywords: ssh debian authorized_keys
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  13. I have a server for each application I run
    Debian for my database server and a webserver
    CentOs for my Minecraft (ran in a screen session)
    Windows for Mail server
    And these are all virtual servers on a VMware ESXI 5 platform running in a datacenter with 100/100mbps for $55/month.
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    For my home server, I use MineOS Turnkey - extremely lightweight (remote web control only - beneficial because the entire OS only uses about 200MB RAM itself).
    Runs a Direwolf20 Feed the Beast Server with about 2GB RAM out of 4GB available, and despite only having a dual core processor, it runs a dream as the 128GB SSD in it is a massive improvement over a HDD, and MineOS also has support for RAMdisks if you need it (though SSD's make this pointless). easily supported 10 people, bottlenecks were on the client side mostly.
    It's really easy to set up too, and there's enough tutorials on the internet.
    Only downside is that I never got the wifi drivers working, so it has to stay plugged into the router all the time. Not a huge hassle, but since it's a tablet hybrid, I'd prefer using it from my desk when I want to occasionally access Windows.
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    Ubuntu Server uses less than 200MB while idling
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    Highly recommend CentOS or Debian, in that order for a server.
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    Then I must have misread my RAM info.
    It would be 20MB then.
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    ended up using debian and not a problem so far
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