Rack-mount Server Specs for Beast Server

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    ShadyShroomz

    Just need some help/opinions/player estimates. Ok so I know quite a lot about computers (at least I'd like to think that anyways), and I am building a rack-mount server for my data-center (not as grand as you might think). Here are the specs:
    1x: Rosewill 1.0 mm Thickness 4U Rackmount Server Chassis
    2x: Intel Xeon E5-1650 v2 3.50 GHz Processor
    16x: Kingston Technology ValueRAM 16 GB 1600MHz DDR3
    4x: SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SDSSDHP-256G-FFP (raid 10)
    1x: HIGH POWER® 1200-Watt 80 Plus Certified High-performance Modular Cable Management ATX PC Gaming/ Server Power Supply
    1x: Asus Z9PE-D16 Dual LGA2011 Xeon/Intel C602-A || Supermicro Dual Socket R (LGA 2011) Supports Intel Xeon Processor E5-2600 Intel C602 chipset QPI up to 8.0GT/s Up to 512 GB DDR3 1600MHz ECC DIMM Server Motherboard X9DAI-B
    2x: ARCTIC Freezer Xtreme Rev. 2 CPU Cooler

    Old specs:
    1x: Rosewill 1.0 mm Thickness 4U Rackmount Server Chassis
    2x: Intel Chip Processor 3.5 4 BX80646E31270V3
    4x: Kingston Technology ValueRAM 64 GB Kit of 4 (4x16 GB Modules)
    1x: Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5-Inch SATA III
    2x: HP 403781-001 DL380 G5 1000W Power Supply
    1x: Asus Z9PE-D16 Dual LGA2011 Xeon/Intel C602-A

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    Coelho

    First of all wrong section.

    Second of all why didn't you get Supermicro?
    And there is absolutely no way that the motherboard is compatible with that CPU.

    EDIT: And wow there's way too much RAM there for that CPU
    And you can't have two 1270v3's in one machine

    Did you even check if this thing starts?

    EDIT2: A 1000w power supply for a server? What?

    EDIT3: Where are your drives?

    EDIT4: Oh wait I see your SSD. Why did you go so excessive on everything else except for your SSDs?

    EDIT5: Scratch that you said a 1TB SSD. Still, you could always have 4 1TB SSDs in RAID 10 and that would (actually) work.
     
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    ShadyShroomz

    I haven't built this yet, and I wasn't really expecting it to work :) I just want to get some ideas for what is good/not good and that is what I picked out to begin with.
    Also, I clicked the wrong section :/ Maybe a mod could change it or something or is there a way I can do that?
     
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    XD 3VIL M0NKEY

    ShadyShroomz
    You have a data center and you can't build a server?
     
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    TnT

    Moved to the correct forum.
     
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    ShadyShroomz

    First of all, I don't own it.
    Second of all, it's a very "make shift" data center. It's essentially 4 very powerful internet connections all connected to my house with some equipment in the basement, it's my dads but he doesn't want to help me or pay for the server, so I came here

    Thanks :D

    I updated the parts based on feedback:
    1x: Rosewill 1.0 mm Thickness 4U Rackmount Server Chassis
    2x: Intel Xeon E5-1650 v2 3.50 GHz Processor
    16x: Kingston Technology ValueRAM 16 GB 1600MHz DDR3
    4x: SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SDSSDHP-256G-FFP (raid 10)
    1x: HIGH POWER® 1200-Watt 80 Plus Certified High-performance Modular Cable Management ATX PC Gaming/ Server Power Supply
    1x: Asus Z9PE-D16 Dual LGA2011 Xeon/Intel C602-A || Supermicro Dual Socket R (LGA 2011) Supports Intel Xeon Processor E5-2600 Intel C602 chipset QPI up to 8.0GT/s Up to 512 GB DDR3 1600MHz ECC DIMM Server Motherboard X9DAI-B
    and I also added:
    2x: ARCTIC Freezer Xtreme Rev. 2 CPU Cooler
     
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    ShadyShroomz

    Thanks for all the help guys! I will be getting the parts really soon so if there are any last minute changes you want me to make, make sure to tell me now! :D
     
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    ledship

    You should change the E5 processor to a E3 processor, E3s have better performance for Minecraft servers as they are single threaded.
     
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    Clinton

    Not to be rude, but that's just silly.

    That much RAM is not a great idea. The CPU will be the bottleneck way before you even hit 100GB of RAM unless you're using that RAM for a database or something similar.

    Second of all, a 4U for a single E5? Why?
    That motherboard is made for dual socketed E5's, which you're not doing.

    If this is for a minecraft server I suggest getting what we built for one of our customers:

    Intel Xeon Haswell E3-1280v3, 4x 3.6Ghz cores, 8x HT cores, 8M L3
    Supermicro X10SLM+-F socket 1150 server board, 4x DDR3 DIMM slots
    Supermicro SNK-P0046P socket 1150 passive CPU heatsink
    Kingston 32GB (4x KVR16E11/8GB) ECC unbuffered DDR3-1600
    1x Samsung 120GB 840 Series SATA-III 6G/s TLC SSD drive (Or any SSD you'd like. I'm partial to Mushkin and Samsung)
    Supermicro SC512L-260B mini 1U Rackmount Chassis, 14" deep
    Supermicro 260-watt Power Supply
     
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    ShadyShroomz

    If you see, I said 2x, meaning 2 E5's
     
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    Clinton

    That's even worse, because the E5-1650 is a single socket processor. Which means if you got two of them you wouldn't even be able to use one of them without getting another motherboard.
     
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    MikeA

    Take Clinton's advice, that build he listed to you is perfect and much better than your E5 build that you originally listed. Making the mistake and spending $1k-$2k isn't something you can just undo.
     
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    Tythus

    Yeh the issue is that your using single socket cpus on a dual socket motherboard although you guys haven't asked if he is running multiple server instances on one machine then getting that amount of ram or cpu cores can make sense?
     
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    ShadyShroomz

    Yes, I am setting it up like one server for each mini-game instance, as one gets more popular, I add more and more servers to it.

    So I looked at what you said,
    This is what I picked out:
    Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 120GB
    Supermicro CSE-512L-260B Chassis
    Kingston Technology ValueRAM 32GB Kit of 4 (4 x 8 GB) DDR3 1600MHz PC3 12800 ECC CL11 DIMM
    Intel Xeon E3-1280V2 3.60 GHz Processor - Socket H2 LGA-1155

    SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SCM-F-O LGA 1155 Intel C204 Micro ATX Intel Xeon E3 Server Motherboard

    Super Micro Computer Supermicro Sp 262-1s - Power Supply - 260 Watt (pws-0055) -

    Supermicro SNK-P0043P 2U Passive Cpu Hs for Amd Socket G34

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    s that any good and how many players is yours able to hold?
     
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    Tythus


    That will be very reasonable I'm afraid I wouldn't really be able to say how many just due to variance in plugins and etc but I imagine if you keep tight control on chunk loads mobs plugins etc 500+ players should be achievable
     
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    Clinton

    I can't give you an accurate number. There are way too many variables. It is currently the fastest single threaded CPU you can get though so you should rest assured on that matter.
     
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    caelum19

    It'd be good to just get a really good motherboard, 1x8GB RAM, 512GB SSD and a really good processor.
    that way, you can easily upgrade without having to throw away any good parts, as I'm sure it'll be a while until you find yourself with 400+ players.
     
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    ShadyShroomz

    I'm already at 400+ players, using a host, but I'm losing money, I am going to get 3 of those systems I mentioned up there just to be safe, last time I did a livestream we had 800 players join all at the same time, I have almost three times as many subs now. I want to host it myself, I feel like it's more profitable in the long run.
    So that's the same server your client uses (Or about the same), how many players is he able to hold? I am going to be optimizing it really well, it's a mini-game server so the worlds will be small, entity will be limited, some games will have entities, but I am changing some things in my only intensive plugin witch is Apocalypse, I'm making more powerful mobs apposed to more mobs. I'm making players invisible to each other in the main lobby. Do you think it would be able to hold 500 players is all I'm asking
     
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    Clinton

    Probably. I don't think you understand. You're asking an open-ended question. How fast can my car go with a certain engine? Well that matters on a lot of things. Altitude, temperature, tires, length of strip, transmission, gearing, etc.

    What you can do is buy a good performing system and bench it to your spec software setup. Keep in mind RAM is not the bottleneck for minecraft servers. With as much money as you claim/seem to have you're much better of renting servers and upgrading every year to newer hardware.
     
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    mazentheamazin

    ShadyShroomz
    There is another factor that you have to keep in mind when you're self hosting, which is your actual connection speeds, i.e if you have amazing server specifications that can handle this amount of players that you're claiming to have, and have a 100/40 connection speed, you won't be able to run as smooth as you may think.
     
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    ShadyShroomz

    My speeds are 1000/1000
     
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    danjb2000

    Offtopic; what network do you run?
    On topic: I'm sure 600 is possible with optimisation.
     
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    MikeA

    He used Google Fiber apparently, so I assume he lives in Kansas City. He can't push 1Gbit, so his network is probably around 700-800mbps~. Regardless he only needs 20mbps for Minecraft.
     
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