[REQ] [Spout?] New Magic!

Discussion in 'Archived: Plugin Requests' started by mikeyagoto, Nov 30, 2011.

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    mikeyagoto

    Plugin category: Fun, Mechanic-altering, role-playing

    Suggested name: MagicCraft
    A bit about me: I'm a Minecraft player, who has (thinks he has) good ideas for new plugins, but has very little luck with Java (I've tried)

    What I want: a new way of doing magic. I got most of my inspiration from two series of novels, the magicians, and the magician king, both by Lev Grossmen, and the Inheritance Cycle by Christopher Paloni (Sorry for spelling). The basic premise: Energy will be added (Hopefully doable with spout) it will be like mana that is traditionally used, however it works like it does in the Inheritance Cycle, that is, if you run out of energy your spells don't stop, they keep going until they use up all of your health and you explode (like a big creeper!) (Or as in the magicians you go niffen) Now on to how you actually cast the magic! This idea was influenced more by the magicians where their hand positions funnel the magic, the idea here is that shapes made on the number pad correspond to certain types of spells. I think as example might help explain this. if the player typed in a combo of 2588486 makes a shape like that of an arrow might launch an arrow or push things ahead of them away (although that may be more like 2588789) However these would be just basic "activating forms" which can be used on there own but are less effective. To make the spells more powerful they can be strengthened with precursor forms that can be elemental (to add "types" of damage), alignmental (Demonic, or angelic), determine how much energy to use ect. (these are open to discussion and the dev would have creative freedom) These are examples of damage spells, but there are other spells that could be useful. For example there would be a spell that takes energy from living things (animals, grass, trees) but moves your alignment toward demonic! Also spells that can do things similar to world edit (as in building large structures, or removing large amounts of material) and probably add a new potion that increases energy (like the instant health potion but use lapis lazuli instead of glistering melon?) I have many other ideas... a lot but it would start to become tl;dr (it probably already is) but some quick are include shades, gods, flying spell, magician battles, wards (from physical, magical and different kinds of magical) and finally if the player is damaged or interrupted the spell is messed up and the target has to be in the reticule, that makes the inclusion of a freezing spell important (however movement would count as breaking the concentration so in a magician on magician duel there would be relatively little physical movement. And if there were some particle effects and interesting stuff to make the spells look amazing that would be nice!

    Ideas for commands: There wouldn't be many commands in the traditional sense... I'm thinking this will be spout intensive...

    Ideas for permissions: This should be a default:true permission player.canread and set it to false if they can't read this post.

    Willing to pay up to: $0 I'm a poor college student!

    When I'd like it by: Welli assume the major work cant happen until the RB but I would like to brainstorm with the Dev or maybe a few to see if this can work and how to implement this!

    Similar plugin requests: None that I am aware of!

    Devs who might be interested in this: @TnT @ChrizC @codename_B @polaris120990 (well I copied this... I'm going to leave you all on here so you'll be more tempted to read!)
     
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    llehctim4

    Lol, I was just thinking of wanting another maybe spout magic plugin, and your ideas for spell casting sound good, although annoying if you have to take your hand off the mouse. Maybe you go into spell mode (like typing into the chat, where all keys do something different to normal) by pressing a button then you do those signals on the WASD area of the keyboard. And also some people (laptop users mainly) don't have num-pads, so that could be annoying.
    I know that there is already magic plugins out there, some are:
    http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/fu...n-incantatio-now-with-permissions-1000.24959/
    and:
    http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/fun-magic-v2-0-8-spells-and-wands-1317.676/page-23
    I havent really used either of them much, but I will be trying to set one up on my server. I would also LOVE to have some sort of magic level (mabie intergrated into an RPG plugin like mcMMO) so you only unlock certain spells at a ceartain level (configurable in config) and mabie spell trees, so if you unlock an evil spell you can unlock an even more powerful evil spell or a weaker different type of spell. I also like your idea of the different powers.
    There should also be a way for users to create their own spells in the config.
    It should also have some cool magical GUI.
    Hope I helped and I hope that made sence.
    BTW I am learning how to develop plugins (very basic ATM) but when I have learned I will probably try to make one like this.
     
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    mikeyagoto

    Yes i agree with a lot of what you said! I think levels would be cool for a lot of people to use (im not a fan i prefer human skill to just having a bunch of levels) but it should defiantly be included! i think having it on the keyboard would probably be best! (but thats why I thought of the lock spell and not allowing movement during a spell)

    edit: honestly the two other magic plugins have similar ideas to mine but they are not the same, or as detailed and neither has the exact same thing! I don't want it to be like commands with words it would be cooler if you made shapes! (more in line with the minecraft theme like crafting!)
     
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    llehctim4

    Oh right, yeah. And you should be able to turn levels on or off, or set it so theres a massive difference between highest and lowest levels (like cod, where noobs get pwnd by the lvl 70's with the best guns) or just a few spells difference. There should also be a cast fail, and the better you are (higher level maybe) the less chance you have of failing, and the higher the level spell, the more chance you have of failing and loosing health, mana points, or dying or blowing up etc (again, configurable). And you should be able to decide weather to have unlimeted casting, spells use up mana points (or similar) or use up materials (blocks or items) and there DEFFINATELY needs to be cool casting effects and colours and particles etc.
     
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    mikeyagoto

    Yes! I think it could become a really customizable plugin that could be used by many different styles of magic! i also think there could be consequences if you mess up a pattern or something
     
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    llehctim4

    Yes, and mabie a cooldown time between spells as well. Also mabie the option to set a wand (configurable on/off and what wand or custom wand item). And bind spells to books mabie. Now what would be cool but probably not possible is for certain gestures on multi-touch trackpads/mice can cast cool spells.
     
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    mikeyagoto

    actually i was thinking about something like that! like have a small box gui that you can draw on with the mouse to make rune like things, i think that would be the best way to implement! if possible but i dont really know what spout, or other things can do
     
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    llehctim4

    That sounds awesome! I'm sure spout can do that, but it might take up alot of server memory tracking those lines and guestures, especialy if lots of people are doing it. But actually, mabie the spout client can track them and if correct tell the server that it worked, so the server dosent have to track all those gestures. That will probably require a spoutcraft client mod tho
     
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    mikeyagoto

    well I wouldn't be totally against a spoutcraft client mod but that would turn a lot of other people away from it... well idk if you have a good enough server then it wouldn't be a problem maybe make the option to require the client mod (like how there is an option to require spoutcraft) or just to run it all on the server
     
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    llehctim4

    Yes, I agree with you there. Hopefully somebody will be able to make this!
     
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    chubbz

    Best idea this will make minecraft a whole lot more fun but great idea wit the number pad
     
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    mikeyagoto

    @chubbz Why thank you! i just thought the whole shape idea was more consistent to the minecraft theme because of crafting. Thank you for the support!
     
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    llehctim4

    Is anybody able to make this do they think? Cuz that would be amazing!
     
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    mikeyagoto

    @llehctim4 Thank you for the interest in this plugin request! I'm not sure if anyone has any interest and I have looked elsewhere the only two plugins that i like are MagicSpells and Incantation, that may be what you are looking for, just like to help!
     
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    llehctim4

    Yeah, shame really. If I learn how I will make it!
    I know of some, and I will try to use them
     

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