Server CPU Recommendation

Discussion in 'Bukkit Discussion' started by Hydrosis, Oct 9, 2011.

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    Hydrosis

    I have a choice of three processors for an upgrade.
    They are (from cheapest to most expensive): AMD Athlon™ II X4(2.3 GHz) and 16 GB RAM, Intel® Xeon® X3440 (2.53 Ghz) and 16 GB RAM, or i5-2400 3.1GHz (3.4 TurboBoost) and 12 GB RAM.
    Which ones can handle 50+ players and 31 plugins? Here is a list of the plugins I have right now (I plan on adding mcmmo in the future):
    Code:
    AfkBooter
    BackToBody
    bLog
    ChatSentry
    ChestShop
    ChunkRegen
    ColorMe
    CommandBook
    EasyBan
    Factions
    GroupManager
    iConomy
    Lockette
    LogBlock
    LogBlockQuestioner
    LyTreeHelper
    MCMA_compat
    MultiHome
    NoCheat
    ObuShutTheHellUp
    Parties
    PlayerStatus
    Prefixer
    SimpleReserve
    SpamHammer
    SpawnX
    Vanilla
    WorldEdit
    WorldGuard
    xAuth
     
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    zipfe

    Get the fastest one you can afford. Minecraft itself can use only one core, so it really boils down to max CPU speed.
     
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    RogerWilco

    Yeah. Bukkit is slightly multithreaded (for saving chunks I believe), but in general this is the best advice. Looks like the i5-2400 3.1GHz is your best bet.
     
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    wassilij

     
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    sukosevato

    This one, by far.
     
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    Hydrosis

    Yes, I know the i5 is the best...I mean which one is the one with the least amount of power that can handle it...
    AMD: $99/month
    Intel Xenon: $120/month
    i5: $135/month

    There is a huge difference in price ranges. That's why I need to know which one is the cheapest on to get, but still be able to hold 50+ players and those amount of plugins without lag.
     
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    rmb938

    Get the Xenon. Xenons are made for server softwareand offer the best performance even if their clock speed is lower then a desktop cpu. AMD Athons and Intel i5s are mainly desktop CPUS.

    Just because they are the same chip doesn't matter much. They are fitted to different types of motherboards which define what the cpu does. Of coarse nothing is stopping you from putting a xenon onto a desktop motherboard but the cpu is self is not optimized for desktop use.

    Xenons are made to be paired with server motherboards to crunch numbers and run at high load with no down time.

    I7s,i5s ect are made for desktop hardware. Optimized for gaming, video rendering ect...with out constant load at 100%

    They may be the same physical chip but it is what they are optimized for. Yes some people used i7s to run servers but Xenons are always better to run on server hardware.

    One is a server class CPU and one is a dektop class cpu. Both optimized for different tasks even though it is the same chip.

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    sukosevato

    I would LOVE to hear your arguments behind this statement.

    Let's take a look at these 2 CPU's. Both Sandy Bridge.

    i7 2600
    http://ark.intel.com/products/52213
    E125
    http://ark.intel.com/products/52277

    Now I would like to know why that E1275 would be faster then that i7 2600. It's exactly the same chip. The only difference is that the GPU has a different name and supposedly gets better driver support and the fact that on the Xeons the ECC compatible part is unlocked.

    Other then that, it is EXACTLY the same chip.

    Please, do elaborate. I would love to know why that Xeon gives more performance. And nope, ECC support will not increase performance.
     
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    Hydrosis

    Thanks :) I'll try out the Xenon and see how it works out.

    Well, my current server is a [email protected] Ghz. Will the 0.2 Ghz make much of a difference(my current one gives me 2 cores instead of 4)?

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    rmb938

    That small of a different wont do much. Also minecraft is not really multi threaded so if you are just running the server on it then 2 core is fine. If you want to run extra stuff like dynmap, a webserver ect I would go with the 4 core cpu just to balance the load out.
     
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    Hydrosis

    Ok thanks! But the Xenon is still better than the i5 @3 Ghz?

    Here is what I am getting from my current server(using commandbook):
    CONSOLE: Expected time elapsed: 5000.0ms
    CONSOLE: Time elapsed: 9650ms
    CONSOLE: Actual clock rate: 10.362694300518134 ticks/sec
    CONSOLE: Expected clock rate: 20 ticks/sec

    Also, here is my cpu (2 [email protected] Ghz) and RAM usage at the time using the plugins listed above:
    Active Sessions23 / 40 players
    Memory Usage2770MB / 6144MB
    CPU Usage53%


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    Nathan C

    i5 2400 will destroy everything from AMD and Xeons. Not only that, but it will serve the best for single-threaded programs like Minecraft. Also Intel will be more powerful whilst using less power, compared to the outdated AMD processors.

    Also I like how he tries to push server hardware, but the fact is that it does not matter. Desktops can be run 24/7 for years and years and never have issues, it is all dependent on the quality of the hardware. We are running Minecraft server here, definitely do not need server grade hardware.



    No, i5 will smash the Xenon most likely. It depends if your Xenon is based off Sandy Bridge technology, if not then you will be destroyed by the Sandy Bridge i5's.



    It doesn't the 2600k beats it by a bit. Everyone thinks just because it is a Xeon it is faster, but they couldn't be more wrong.
     
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    andrewkm

    Xeon E3-1280 <3
     
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